Comments on: Individual versus collective responsibilities for raising children http://www.gregoryforman.com/blog/2010/02/individual-versus-collective-responsibilities-for-raising-children/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=individual-versus-collective-responsibilities-for-raising-children Attorney at Law Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:31:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mark http://www.gregoryforman.com/blog/2010/02/individual-versus-collective-responsibilities-for-raising-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3283 mark Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:53:06 +0000 http://www.gregoryforman.com/?p=2029#comment-3283 So, how do you raise a child to be collectivist? how do you raise a child to be individualist? So, how do you raise a child to be collectivist? how do you raise a child to be individualist?

]]> By: MJ Goodwin http://www.gregoryforman.com/blog/2010/02/individual-versus-collective-responsibilities-for-raising-children/comment-page-1/#comment-699 MJ Goodwin Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:10:19 +0000 http://www.gregoryforman.com/?p=2029#comment-699 I agree with what is said here. I would add that it is curious to me that the state requires more education to drive a car or cut hair than it does it to parent a child. I think that any parent who has to rely on the state to support his or her child should be required to do something (education wise) to improve his or her situation. Otherwise, we are raising generation after generation of folk who just think it's normal to be on food stamps. I think their self-esteem suffers greatly and that impacts their entire existence. I agree with what is said here. I would add that it is curious to me that the state requires more education to drive a car or cut hair than it does it to parent a child. I think that any parent who has to rely on the state to support his or her child should be required to do something (education wise) to improve his or her situation. Otherwise, we are raising generation after generation of folk who just think it’s normal to be on food stamps. I think their self-esteem suffers greatly and that impacts their entire existence.

]]> By: California observer http://www.gregoryforman.com/blog/2010/02/individual-versus-collective-responsibilities-for-raising-children/comment-page-1/#comment-696 California observer Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:22:03 +0000 http://www.gregoryforman.com/?p=2029#comment-696 You're right, of course, that the debate needs to be explicit. But just because tradeoffs exists at the extremes doesn't mean they apply most of the time. All kinds of upbringing is ok, provided it steers clear of violence and outright harm; all kinds of financial support is ok, as long as it isn't obviously leading to more harm. So I think the best solution is not to solve the whole general problem of state-vs-individual, but to agree under what narrow circumstances (child abuse, hunger, truancy) we even need to make any such decisions at all. (One benefit might be to shut up guys like your dingbat Lt. Governor, whose comments about feeding stray animals had no bearing on anything which actually matters or even happens much now). You’re right, of course, that the debate needs to be explicit. But just because tradeoffs exists at the extremes doesn’t mean they apply most of the time. All kinds of upbringing is ok, provided it steers clear of violence and outright harm; all kinds of financial support is ok, as long as it isn’t obviously leading to more harm.

So I think the best solution is not to solve the whole general problem of state-vs-individual, but to agree under what narrow circumstances (child abuse, hunger, truancy) we even need to make any such decisions at all. (One benefit might be to shut up guys like your dingbat Lt. Governor, whose comments about feeding stray animals had no bearing on anything which actually matters or even happens much now).

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